CANCELLED - Southpointe Academy Proposal for a Joint Use Recreation Facility at Grauer Park

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Consultation has been cancelled.

Update

Thanks to the feedback from the community.

After reviewing comments, questions, and concerns from the community, on Monday, June 14, Delta City Council unanimously adopted the following motion:

THAT the Virtual Public Consultation scheduled for Monday, June 21, 2021 regarding the Southpointe Academy Proposal for a Joint Use Recreation Facility at Grauer Park be canceled and that Southpointe Academy be requested to take into consideration the comments from the community received on the proposal.


Update

Thanks to the feedback from the community.

After reviewing comments, questions, and concerns from the community, on Monday, June 14, Delta City Council unanimously adopted the following motion:

THAT the Virtual Public Consultation scheduled for Monday, June 21, 2021 regarding the Southpointe Academy Proposal for a Joint Use Recreation Facility at Grauer Park be canceled and that Southpointe Academy be requested to take into consideration the comments from the community received on the proposal.


Consultation has been cancelled.

If you have a question about the proposed Southpointe Academy Proposal for a Joint Use Recreation Facility at Grauer Park or the consultation process, please feel free to ask us.

For the ease of responding, please stick to one topic or a single question per submission.  You can submit as many questions as you like.

  • Share Has any work been undertaken to determine if the facility is what is needed for all of Tsawwassen or is it based on what SP has determined their needs to be? on Facebook Share Has any work been undertaken to determine if the facility is what is needed for all of Tsawwassen or is it based on what SP has determined their needs to be? on Twitter Share Has any work been undertaken to determine if the facility is what is needed for all of Tsawwassen or is it based on what SP has determined their needs to be? on Linkedin Email Has any work been undertaken to determine if the facility is what is needed for all of Tsawwassen or is it based on what SP has determined their needs to be? link

    Has any work been undertaken to determine if the facility is what is needed for all of Tsawwassen or is it based on what SP has determined their needs to be?

    Tsawwassen asked over 3 years ago

    Yes, there have been two sport summits seeking input on needs from a wide variety of community sport organizations. A common request of many community sport organizations is the need for high-quality, year-round indoor training facilities.

  • Share In addition to the loss of the lacrosse box, how much of the park’s green space will be lost as well? on Facebook Share In addition to the loss of the lacrosse box, how much of the park’s green space will be lost as well? on Twitter Share In addition to the loss of the lacrosse box, how much of the park’s green space will be lost as well? on Linkedin Email In addition to the loss of the lacrosse box, how much of the park’s green space will be lost as well? link

    In addition to the loss of the lacrosse box, how much of the park’s green space will be lost as well?

    ygraham asked over 3 years ago

    Approximately 24,000 square feet more building/hard surface area is included in this proposal than exists in the park today.

  • Share Would it be less expensive to build the 2 storey building next to the rec centre due to location of underground services? on Facebook Share Would it be less expensive to build the 2 storey building next to the rec centre due to location of underground services? on Twitter Share Would it be less expensive to build the 2 storey building next to the rec centre due to location of underground services? on Linkedin Email Would it be less expensive to build the 2 storey building next to the rec centre due to location of underground services? link

    Would it be less expensive to build the 2 storey building next to the rec centre due to location of underground services?

    Tsawwassen asked over 3 years ago

    No, utility connections represent a small portion of the cost. Conventional building construction costs are considerably higher than an air-inflated dome.

  • Share I just received a reply to a question stating SP. is paying $75 per hour rent based on their initial investment. In real terms what will that mean in 5, 10, 20 or 30 years when inflation into account? Will all other groups have the same opportunity to have their rates frozen for 30 years? on Facebook Share I just received a reply to a question stating SP. is paying $75 per hour rent based on their initial investment. In real terms what will that mean in 5, 10, 20 or 30 years when inflation into account? Will all other groups have the same opportunity to have their rates frozen for 30 years? on Twitter Share I just received a reply to a question stating SP. is paying $75 per hour rent based on their initial investment. In real terms what will that mean in 5, 10, 20 or 30 years when inflation into account? Will all other groups have the same opportunity to have their rates frozen for 30 years? on Linkedin Email I just received a reply to a question stating SP. is paying $75 per hour rent based on their initial investment. In real terms what will that mean in 5, 10, 20 or 30 years when inflation into account? Will all other groups have the same opportunity to have their rates frozen for 30 years? link

    I just received a reply to a question stating SP. is paying $75 per hour rent based on their initial investment. In real terms what will that mean in 5, 10, 20 or 30 years when inflation into account? Will all other groups have the same opportunity to have their rates frozen for 30 years?

    Tsawwassen asked over 3 years ago

    The Southpointe investment represents a pre-paid lease much like the model used for the Delta Gymnastics facility. It is a simple calculation of dividing the $4.5 million investment by Southpointe using 2,000 hours annually over a 30 year period = $75/hour

  • Share What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? The estimated City maintenance cost is $150,000 annually and the projected annual City rental revenue is $108,000 annually. What are the annual operating costs including the likes of staff salaries, utilities, etc? Is there no expectation of larger maintenance costs over 30 years? New dome, new flooring, new roof, upgrading washrooms, etc? This would be standard practice in most government facilities. on Facebook Share What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? The estimated City maintenance cost is $150,000 annually and the projected annual City rental revenue is $108,000 annually. What are the annual operating costs including the likes of staff salaries, utilities, etc? Is there no expectation of larger maintenance costs over 30 years? New dome, new flooring, new roof, upgrading washrooms, etc? This would be standard practice in most government facilities. on Twitter Share What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? The estimated City maintenance cost is $150,000 annually and the projected annual City rental revenue is $108,000 annually. What are the annual operating costs including the likes of staff salaries, utilities, etc? Is there no expectation of larger maintenance costs over 30 years? New dome, new flooring, new roof, upgrading washrooms, etc? This would be standard practice in most government facilities. on Linkedin Email What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? The estimated City maintenance cost is $150,000 annually and the projected annual City rental revenue is $108,000 annually. What are the annual operating costs including the likes of staff salaries, utilities, etc? Is there no expectation of larger maintenance costs over 30 years? New dome, new flooring, new roof, upgrading washrooms, etc? This would be standard practice in most government facilities. link

    What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? The estimated City maintenance cost is $150,000 annually and the projected annual City rental revenue is $108,000 annually. What are the annual operating costs including the likes of staff salaries, utilities, etc? Is there no expectation of larger maintenance costs over 30 years? New dome, new flooring, new roof, upgrading washrooms, etc? This would be standard practice in most government facilities.

    Tsawwassen asked over 3 years ago

    The $150,000 is a broad estimate for janitorial staff  and electricity (approximately $120,000 and $30,000 respectively). These estimates will be refined if the project proceeds.  A new dome roof is not expected to occur during the term proposed however a resurfacing of the turf is likely to occur at the 15-year point depending on use.  The Sprung wood floor will require refinishing every 3 to 5 years.

  • Share Why is Delta not building the facility if it is needed in Tsawwassen and renting to SP at market rents? on Facebook Share Why is Delta not building the facility if it is needed in Tsawwassen and renting to SP at market rents? on Twitter Share Why is Delta not building the facility if it is needed in Tsawwassen and renting to SP at market rents? on Linkedin Email Why is Delta not building the facility if it is needed in Tsawwassen and renting to SP at market rents? link

    Why is Delta not building the facility if it is needed in Tsawwassen and renting to SP at market rents?

    Tsawwassen asked over 3 years ago

    The total cost of this facility is estimated at $5.5 million with the City paying $1.0 million and Southpointe paying $4.5 million. Based on the maximum hours available to Southpointe, the school is paying upfront $75/hour of use for the entire 30-year term.  

    For the City to build this facility at its cost at this time, other corporate priorities would have to be deferred or borrowing of funds would be required. Currently, Delta is expecting that the rental rates that it will charge for use of this facility by the community, or any other school, will average out to $45/hour ($30/hour for youth and $60/hour for adults).

  • Share What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? on Facebook Share What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? on Twitter Share What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? on Linkedin Email What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement? link

    What are the estimated maintenance and operational costs over the 30 year agreement?

    Tsawwassen asked over 3 years ago

     The estimated City maintenance cost is $150,000 annually and the projected annual City rental revenue is $108,000 annually.

  • Share Will the City of Delta pay for 100% of maintenance yet only be available to the taxpayers 60% of the time for 30 years? If Southpointe does not use their 40% of the hours, will the City of Delta be able to use them at no charge? Will there be restrictions in place to prevent Southpointe from making a profit over "reselling" their hours back to the City of Delta or other private schools/businesses - or from leaving the facility "empty" if they are unable to use the hours? on Facebook Share Will the City of Delta pay for 100% of maintenance yet only be available to the taxpayers 60% of the time for 30 years? If Southpointe does not use their 40% of the hours, will the City of Delta be able to use them at no charge? Will there be restrictions in place to prevent Southpointe from making a profit over "reselling" their hours back to the City of Delta or other private schools/businesses - or from leaving the facility "empty" if they are unable to use the hours? on Twitter Share Will the City of Delta pay for 100% of maintenance yet only be available to the taxpayers 60% of the time for 30 years? If Southpointe does not use their 40% of the hours, will the City of Delta be able to use them at no charge? Will there be restrictions in place to prevent Southpointe from making a profit over "reselling" their hours back to the City of Delta or other private schools/businesses - or from leaving the facility "empty" if they are unable to use the hours? on Linkedin Email Will the City of Delta pay for 100% of maintenance yet only be available to the taxpayers 60% of the time for 30 years? If Southpointe does not use their 40% of the hours, will the City of Delta be able to use them at no charge? Will there be restrictions in place to prevent Southpointe from making a profit over "reselling" their hours back to the City of Delta or other private schools/businesses - or from leaving the facility "empty" if they are unable to use the hours? link

    Will the City of Delta pay for 100% of maintenance yet only be available to the taxpayers 60% of the time for 30 years? If Southpointe does not use their 40% of the hours, will the City of Delta be able to use them at no charge? Will there be restrictions in place to prevent Southpointe from making a profit over "reselling" their hours back to the City of Delta or other private schools/businesses - or from leaving the facility "empty" if they are unable to use the hours?

    kw asked over 3 years ago

    The City will be responsible for the maintenance of the facility, as is the case for any other facility the City owns. The maintenance costs will be offset, with fees being charged for use of the facility. The City is in control of allocating and permitting all non-school use. 

    If the school uses less than the 40% of hours identified, these hours will automatically be available to the City at no cost. Yes, there will be restrictions that prohibit the school from “reselling” their hours. Any unused hours by Southpointe Academy will be available for the community’s use.

  • Share Are domed buildings meant to last for 30 years? Is that the most sustainable building design? on Facebook Share Are domed buildings meant to last for 30 years? Is that the most sustainable building design? on Twitter Share Are domed buildings meant to last for 30 years? Is that the most sustainable building design? on Linkedin Email Are domed buildings meant to last for 30 years? Is that the most sustainable building design? link

    Are domed buildings meant to last for 30 years? Is that the most sustainable building design?

    kw asked over 3 years ago

    The domed building will last more than 30 years. Domed structures are very sustainable in that they incorporate a simple foundation that is reused when the fabric needs to be replaced. They are not heated and the only CO2 produced is from the electricity used to inflate them and run the lights.

  • Share How much is maintenance expected to cost per year? Presumably maintenance costs will increase over time as the facility ages. on Facebook Share How much is maintenance expected to cost per year? Presumably maintenance costs will increase over time as the facility ages. on Twitter Share How much is maintenance expected to cost per year? Presumably maintenance costs will increase over time as the facility ages. on Linkedin Email How much is maintenance expected to cost per year? Presumably maintenance costs will increase over time as the facility ages. link

    How much is maintenance expected to cost per year? Presumably maintenance costs will increase over time as the facility ages.

    kw asked over 3 years ago

    It is estimated to cost $150,000 per year including janitorial costs. The estimate cited represents an average cost, as some costs will vary based on use and facility age.